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Thanks for posting this! I never quite thought about it like that before, but it makes sense. I always wondered why they thought torture would work on someone who was willing to die for what they believe. I said it yesterday on someone else's blog, that there were two types of people, those who would die before they would give into torture, a small percentage, and then there are those who would give in, but probably lie, so they still wouldn't be telling the truth, so the point is moot.

And *why* is there a debate in the 21st century as to whether torture is a just means to and end? Like, WTF?

Out of everything in the Olbermann clip that part was the most elucidating. Hannity's such a whiner that even if he submitted to what would obviously be a sanitized version of waterboarding, he wouldn't last very long. I'd still like front row tickets, though. :)

I feel a circus coming on.

I just found this site... I like it, and you Mr.Max Pearson.

Isn't the point that we don't care if torture works or not? And it doesn't, since it's been proven that many people will fabricate information and confess to just about anything to get the torture to stop.

The point is torture is illegal and then magically made not-illegal by some executive memos... oh wait but it's really still illegal since we have a whole legislative process for defining what is an isn't illegal.

Sorry those of you who did it, you're all criminals because Bush and Co. lied to you. But it was for a good cause, right?

And one guy who is willing to voluntarily submit to waterboarding by people he knows probably won't actually kill him isn't really the same as someone grabbed by the US military.

If he's willing to let someone pick a random night and kick in his door, scream and point guns at his wife and kids, belt him around a few times and then take him off for months of solitary coupled with waterboarding... THEN I think he can have something to say about it.

For anyone that hasn't already seen it here's the link to British journalist Christopher Hitchens voulenteering to be waterboarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

Maybe this Hannity guy should take a look and see what hes getting himeself into :s

When did waterboarding start being called torture; before or after Bush was involved?

He will not have suffered sleep deprivation. He won't have strangers screaming at him during the ordeal. He won't be verbally abused, slammed against a wall or slapped around.
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Some of you guys out there pay for this stuff.
I went through this during Catholic school...you wussies!

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